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The restauration of the Spider Veloce from 1985 of Brock Brinkerhoff from Alabaster.

         

I am about to start my Spider Veloce conversion to a V8. Since it won’t be a pure Alfa when finished, I’m not sure if anyone here would be interested in the pictures & build process, so I thought I’d ask.
I am starting with a pretty beaten 1985 Spider Veloce. The floors are pretty much rusted out, and the body has seen better days. I will be swapping in a small block Ford V8 with fuel injection – Shooting for 400hp. Behind that will be a T5 5-speed to a narrowed 8.8 rear-end.
The front end will be re-done with a tubular K-member to support a coil-over suspension. The rear will possibly be a 4-link type setup. Both front and rear will have disc brakes.
The overall intent is to be a sleeper – Closed hood, quite exhaust. However, my driving force is to create something of an Italian version of the 427 Shelby Cobra – No top, no door glass etc.

 

DAY 1
 
 
 
* Here's some pictures of the progress today. Since I started this morning, this shows the car as it was. For the curious, I paid $900 for the car in the condition shown - I hadn't touched it until today.
* Te car actually runs and drives but the clutch master is history.
* The body is not in top shape either
* And the top has a few minor leaks
 
 
 
 
* Starting to take out the interior, notice the incredible craftsmanship used when making the 6x9 speaker holes.
* The floors are just about gone.
* Interior pretty much removed
* While removing the interior and wiring, I was careful to pull out the computers and harness. Anyone want to buy a running 2.0 Spider drivetrain (engine, trans, rear end) along with full harness and computers (BTW, it's an FI car with AC)?
 
DAY 2

I spent a good part of today working in the engine compartment. I am trying to be careful while removing the engine and transmission by cutting as little as possible.
As I removed parts, I was really surprised by the size of this engine – It is not “small” by any stretch of the imagination! There is plenty of room for a small block.
I plan on pulling the engine this week if I have time (I do have a “normal” day job too you know ) – If not, then I’ll pull it Saturday morning, along with the transmission and rear end.
The short-term goal is to get it stripped down and up on blocks (tall blocks! 36” or so) so that I can begin the engine compartment, transmission tunnel and rear-end work.
Most of that work will be with the plasma cutter Should be fun.
Once I get the "dirty" part of this done, my posts will be more like a journal, outlining what I'm doing.

By the way - I do this for 2 reasons:
1) Share the experience
2) So that *you*, the reader, can chime in with various ideas if I get stuck

 
 
 
 
* Engine - At the start of the day.
* Intake coming apart.
* My helper taking out some frustrations.
* Injection, Wiring, Heater hoses, AC, Vacuum - All GONE!
 
 
 
 
 
 
* Engine mounts, exhaust, etc all unbolted.
* Just for Fun - The Alfa's current stable mate.
 
DAY 3

I set out to tackle the following for the whole weekend

* Pull the engine and transmission
* Remove gas tank
* Remove battery box
* Remove heater core and box
* Remove unneeded wiring
* Remove spare tire
* Pressure wash the entire car - Topside at least

I've actually been able to hit my goal for the weekend in just one day!
Starting out this morning, the Alfa began to have an out of body experience (as can be expected when you remove it's heart )

 
 
 
 
* There was a ton of crap in the way - Tin panels scabbed on and general hack jobs done previously.
* I put the car up on jackstands and got to work removing exhaust, drive shaft etc.
* The remnants removed.
* Then my son Indy & I got busy with the cherry picker.
 
 
 
 
* And finally got the engine out (after removing the transmission from the bottom).
* Here's the hole that was left (note how dirty it is. More later.
* Here she is sitting up high.
* Then we moved onto the trunk area.
 
 
 
 
* Removed everything including the tank.
* Then I removed the AC condenser.
* This is the interior after removing the heater core and fans (before cleaning).
* Time for pressure washing (2500psi).
 
 
 
 
* .....
* The engine bay after pressure washing (didn't know most of that was under there!).
 
DAY 4

Today I worked on getting the chassis thinned down to a workable state. After getting the car back up on jack-stands, I came to the conclusion that the best way to make progress was to remove the rear end.

In doing this, I am now committed to the car not leaving the garage until its back on its own feet - ie. new rear-end is in.

From this stage on its cutting, and then more cutting

 
 
 
 
* Back in the garage after a traumatic day.
* This morning, we put it back up on stands - My son Indy helped me out.
* After getting it up in the air, we supported the rear.
* We started on the inside with the back wall of the passenger compartment. This is key since the new extended fender wells will run through this area.
 
 
 
 
* I had to cut out most of the rear supports, i left the center section intact.
* ..and cut out the rest.
* .....
* Then I removed the decklid. Since the new fender wells will interfere with the hinge area, they'll need to be removed.
 
 
 
 
* Then I moved on to the rear-end. Here's a shot of the last time the rear will be in the car.
* With the entire car supported, I jacked up the rear-end to take the pressure off. Since the car was so light, I needed some weight to get the stress off of the limit straps so that I could remove them. Here's my friend John and my son helping out.
* And here is the rear coming out.
* The rear after removal.
 
 
 
 
* Since we got to this point we removed the front wheels as well.
* Here she is after having her feet removed.
* At this point, I started going after the floors being careful to not hit the original cross-members.
* Fun metal work.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
* Although you can't see them well, the pasenger side floor is about 1/2 done.
 
DAY 5

Tonight I set out to work on the rear-end. I measured out for the new wheels and laid this out on the car.

To do this, I will be cutting through 3 cross-members - One on each side and the main one that spans the rear. Although it is hard to tell, the main cross section across the back of the car is doubled up (about a 3" gap in between) to act as a cross-member.

 
 
 
 
* I started out by mocking up a 17" 275 tire. The final will be 315 or 335's, but the 275 is the only thing that will fit in the existing wheel well right now. In mocking up this section, I can tell how far in the cuts will need to be made and how far down the car will need to sit over the wheels and tires.
* The tools of the trade. The Alfa didn't look too happy about this (and paid me back - more later).
* Here is what the section looks like after being cut. The only thing not cut in this picture is a few inches at the top of the arc of the well.
* This is before I finished the cut through the trunk well.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
* Underneath the car on the passenger side, this is the main frame extension with the stand-off for the rear spring. You can see in this picture where I've cut through it.
 
DAY 6

I didn't get started on the car itself until after noon - I went and bought some new tools and had to straighten out the garage, so at least I have an excuse.

 
 
 
 
* So here is where I left her Tuesday night when she bit me - This will also give you an idea of my shop - This is half of it.
* I started on the spare tire well. My plan to this point has been to work on the rear end, so this area had to go. I used a plasma cutter for some of the cuts.
* Going around the well proved to be a challenge because it is spot welded in some strange places. For example, it is welded to the lip that rolls down from the rear valance. An interesting section proved to be the area directly behind the wheel well - This is where 4 layers of steel come together to form a sort of frame rail.
* In this picture, you can see where the front of the well is spot welded to a trailing member from the center section.
 
 
 
 
* Here what it looked like as soon as I got the wheel well out.
* Then with the air hammer, I started working on the spot welded areas.
* And then on the rear sections of spot welds.
* Fire pictures.
 
 
 
 
* .....
* Once the well was out, I went back to the wheel well and continued the cut that almost took my finger off - My welding gloves seemed like they could stay on during this part.
* And then the problem became the top cut. Since the wheel well is flush with the top body section, this was tight to say the least.
* I decided to cut a little lower in hopes that I could get the main section out of the way and by doing so, would have more room for the tools to finish the top cut.
 
 
 
 
* After I got the main section out of the way, it left a gaping hole!
* Then I was able to cleanly finish the top section. I am really pleased with how it came out!
* Here's what the section looks like from the front.
* Here is part of the scrap pile from today.
 
 
 
 
 
 
* And here is a pretty convincing picture - This is only a 275, but a 315 is less then 2" wider. Also, note the travel is still about 4" for the suspension.
* The 17x275 looks very cool stuffed up in there.
 
DAY 7

Today I set out to work more on the rear, but to also start looking at what needed to be done with the floor. As I mentioned before, I am going to build a new frame using 4" round as the main rails, but today was a turning point for this concept.

As I removed sheetmetal, it appeared that it might be better done if I back-halfed the car. Since it's a unitized body, this would, at first, seem to be a bad idea. But the more I got into the car the more I realized that the existing design lends itself not only to this concept, but to new frame rails overall.

The reason for this is Alfa's placement on the doorsill frame rails. These are fully boxed members that seemingly carry most of the weight of the car. As a matter of fact, the rear frame sections and front frame sections tie into the side frame via a cross member in the middle of the "frame". However - this cross-member is very weak and I can now see why the structure itself does not provide much torsional strength.

With these things in mind, I decided to alter my plans slightly and back-half the car. In the process, I am basically going to convert the car to a body-on-frame from a unibody.

The rear section will be tied into the main frame rails using a boxed section around the new fuel cell. This will make it stronger (and lighter) then the original. It will also resist flexing due to the triangulation I plan for that section.
Stick with me here - This is where things get interesting.

 
 
 
 
* Here is a rough picture I drew out to give myself some ideas - I'll draft this later, but for now this will show what I'm thinking - The top of the page is a top view, while a side view is directly below it (the rear-end will be a narrowed 4 link with a panhard bar).
* The drivers side wheel well prior to any cutting. Because of all the sheetmetal, it's hard to see the real structure.
* The limit straps on the drivers side. I had cut them when removing the rear-end.
* Taken from the passenger wheel well, this shows the section that is over the rear-end (with the right side already cut out).
 
 
 
 
* My friend Travis came by today to help out - Here he is getting into the wheel well.
* The wheel well ties in at the top of the cross section, so I opted to cut this one like the passenger side - Cut it low to get the section out. At this point, I had alreay planned to remove the ENTIRE section, so I wasn't concerned with the middle cut.
* Once the cuts had been made, I cut the rear trailing member from the spare tire well to the gas tank area.
* Once the rear was cut, I cut from within the passenger compartment all the way across the car. Then I cut the top remaining piece.
 
 
 
 
* Here the section is on its way out.
* And it left a big hole.
* .....
* After the main section was removed it was time to clean up the wheel well cuts. Since I'll be extending these inboard, all cuts have to be clean.
 
 
 
 
* I threw the 275 back up in the well to see if I had enough clearence now.
* Here's a mock-up with 275's.
* After the rear section, it was on to the floorpan.
* I was very careful to not cut any cross members (yet). I need these for now to hold the car up (Travis doing the cutting).
 
 
 
 
* In order to get the floorpans done, and to make room for the new smallblock, I trimmed out the firewall.
* .....
* The rough cut across the firewall.
* Time to remove the front section on the transmission tunnel. Since I'll be building mine from aluminum (as with the whole floor), and since I'll need more room for the new transmission, it had to go.
 
 
 
 
* After cutting out the transmission tunnel.
* This is a close-up of the framerail dropping down the drivers side. It is rusted 100% through on top!.
* From the rear towards the front (rough cut across rear section - Not to worry - That section is only there until the new frame goes in).
* The pile from just today.
 
 
 
 
* I then started on the section behind the center cross member.
* I'm pretty sure that's going to void my warranty.
* The rear section removed.
* And here she is probably 400 pounds lighter.
 
 
 
 
* 400 pounds lighter.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
* And now, for the final picture which shows why I did all of this - If you look at the door sill and the boxed section that it is made of, you'll see that it extends all the way to the rear wheel well - PERFECTLY straight! Nothing in the way of doing a new cross member to a new frame running down the middle of the new chassis.

This week I am sourcing the new tubing for the frame (4" .120 1020 DOM). I have laid out the design and it won't be difficult to fabricate. Stay tuned - most of the tear-down is done.
 
UPDATE

Grunt Work
I got a lot done today – Unfortunately, it wasn’t any of the fun build-type of work – It was the run-around-and-source-parts work.

Frame
I’ve spent some time designing the frame. I partially modeled it off of the Cobra replica that I built. I did this because that chassis was designed for 2,000-2,600lbs and it handled extremely well with very little flex. Since I have the specs on dimensions and materials, this car will be similar.
After I drafted up a more formal drawing for the frame, I started making a cut list. Although it won’t be extremely complicated, it should work nicely. I plan on doing the fabrication this weekend so stay tuned for pictures.
I also went to the "Metal Supermarket" today, and yes, that’s the real name. They sell anything metal - all in lengths cut to order. The guys there were fantastic and really helped me out. They answered all of my questions and we got my order together.
Since the 4” round .120” that I’ll be using for the main rails is uncommon, they had to order it. But, by order it, they mean that they’ll have it tomorrow. You have to love service like that. I ended up leaving my precise cut list with them (I had diagrammed everything before going down there). They will call me tomorrow when everything is ready as a package.

Rear End
Then I went looking for my new rear-end. I wanted a Ford 8.8 with disc brakes, locking differential and 5-lug mustang pattern. With the cars I’ve built in the past I used the same salvage yard by my house. The manager has always been super helpful locating parts for me and he did it again. He’s got a rear end matching the above in a late model Explorer. I’ve purchased it rotor to rotor – The entire thing. This will give be the strong rear along with good brakes that I’m looking for.

Wheels & Tires
Since I finally got both in via UPS, I took them down to the tire shop I always deal with and dropped them off while I made the trip to the Metal store. They mounted balanced and cussed me some more – Their machine didn’t like doing the 315’s much In the end, everything worked out fine.

I came home (after logging probably 200 miles today) and mocked up the rear (not the final position, but close).

 
 
 
 
* Here's a quick mock up of the 315's in the rear....
* I came home (after logging probably 200 miles today) and mocked up the rear (not the final position, but close).
 
 
 
 
 
 
* Today I picked up the steel for the frame and the new rear-end (on my way home after a full day at work - in case anyone is wondering ).